People who enjoyed I Know What You Did Last Summer should also enjoy the second sequel, I’ll Always Know What You Did Last Summer (2006), for one very simple reason: IT’S THE SAME FRICKING MOVIE.
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#1 by Blake Matthews on October 1, 2007 - 7:00 am
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So the movie just ends with her waiting (I don’t have much desire to watch the sequels after watching the first one)?
#2 by Ken Begg on October 1, 2007 - 9:21 am
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I hear the next chapter will be set in the future…IN SPACE!
#3 by lyzard on October 1, 2007 - 2:12 pm
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Kewl!
Blake: no, it doesn’t; it ends the same way as ISKWYDLS, only she’s standing by a lonely highway instead of in her own bedroom.
#4 by Blake Matthews on October 1, 2007 - 5:52 pm
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I didn’t even watch the second one. The only slasher movie I have any interest in all of watching is Scream 3, just to finish off the trilogy. But Urban Legends, the two IKWYDLS sequels, Valentine, and whatever…nah.
#5 by Blake Matthews on October 1, 2007 - 6:19 pm
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I wonder if the screenwriters to these things start writing, get to the end, slap themselves on the head and scream, “That’ll be wonderful!”, and then start writing the same old usual cliche ending that we’ve grown to detest? Or are they the producers which never seem to read the large number of reviews on the internet that have abundantly expressed our discuss of this type of ending that insist on including it?
#6 by Matthew Fyudge on October 2, 2007 - 7:53 am
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Well that’s the old question of whether a writer is consciously slapping a load of old cliches together or whether they genuinley believe that it’s the first time anyone had ever had a cat jump out of a cupboard at a scary moment. In terms of these sequels, they’re pretty cynically put together, prompted by the studios/producers/whoever-owns-the-rights and the script-writer is told to produce something to order (“like the first one but different, actually, like the first one but cheaper”). What I find more surprising is when films apparently written on spec STILL trot out the same old crap (for instance a lot of low budget indie horror movies). I don’t know why, but then again I don’t how hollywood can spend two years and a 150 million dollars making a movie without anyone noticing that the script sucks…
#7 by Blake Matthews on October 2, 2007 - 8:29 am
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I’ve at times come up with ideas for stories thinking they were cool, only to discover it’s been done several other times. It happens when I read or watch one example of a genre, sub-genre, or author, think of how I could do it the way I’d prefer, and then discover that there are some films that’ve tried that.
#8 by Matthew Fudge on October 2, 2007 - 9:41 am
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That happens a lot when ‘serious’ authors write sci-fi works (all the while claiming that they’re not really sci-fi) and all the nerds go, “didn’t that happen happen in a Warhammer novel in 1986? Because of course the serious authors don’t read sci-fi and think they’ve hit on a crackingly original idea. This is also happening a lot with the relaunched Dr Who, where non-genre tv writers keep coming up with the msot hackneyed ideas, thinking that they’re new.
Well, hey, on another note, whatever it says on this post, it’s 4.33 pm here. The wonder of the internet. Hello from another contientn.
#9 by Matthew Fudge on October 2, 2007 - 9:42 am
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jeez I gotta learn to spell check.
#10 by Blake Matthews on October 2, 2007 - 10:48 am
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I’m writing from Sao Paulo. Hello. 🙂
#11 by Hasimir Fenring on October 2, 2007 - 12:23 pm
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I’ve at times come up with ideas for stories thinking they were cool, only to discover it’s been done
I’ve given up even attempting it since I can’t come up with anything Philip K. Dick hasn’t already done.
#12 by lyzard on October 2, 2007 - 4:03 pm
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These are fair comments. We tend to think of these things from our own point of view, and assume that the people who work on these films/shows are as obsessive about them as we are, and it’s just not true.
Welcome to all the newcomers, by the way!
#13 by Blake Matthews on October 2, 2007 - 6:14 pm
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Well, I think there are absolutes (eg. don’t kill the black guy first, the “surprise ending” needs to either be abolished or at least with a new twist in itself, etc.). However, I don’t imagine there’s an inherent problem with using an old story, as it’s not very easy to come up with a 100% or even a 75% original idea. If you can do it with a little bit of style or a just a few new twists, than that’s okay. I don’t know…maybe I’m just talking gibberish.
#14 by Matthew Fudge on October 3, 2007 - 3:40 am
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There’s always a way to put a fresh spin on an old story… for instance (personal opinion heres) 28 Days Later had the most cliched elements imaginable but worked by using them with such ferocity and seriousness that you overlooked it. However when Danny Boyle tried to do the same thing earlier this year with Sunshine he came unstuck because it was just a string of story ideas from other movies (2001, Event Horizon, etc etc) without adding anything new. Also, the ending was just silly.
I’m in London btw, hello world.
#15 by Ken Begg on October 3, 2007 - 8:41 am
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“eg. don’t kill the black guy first”
The problem there is that you are exchanging one cliche, ultimately, for another. How about, “Don’t *always* kill the black guy first.”
#16 by Ken Begg on October 3, 2007 - 8:47 am
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Spoiler Warning for those who haven’t read Lyz’s piece (then why are you reading this?):
Lyz, you kind of go into this, but Summers’ establishment of a now supernatural killer is clearly a marketing decision. Horror series can functionally go on forever when they have a focal point menace. Note that attempts to get past this–Friday the 13th A New Beginning, Halloween 3: Season of the Witch–led to quick returns to the series’ trademark killers. Note also how the upcoming remake of Friday the 13th is going to use the fully masked and supernatural Jason as the killer, rather than his mom.
Anyway, this seems to be the Summers series’ bid to establish themselves as an ongoing brand. (Which means the outer space thing isn’t entirely out of line.)
#17 by Zack Handlen on October 3, 2007 - 9:05 am
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“How about, “Don’t *always* kill the black guy first.”
It would also be nice if the black guy has a personality beyond being “the black guy.” If a character is an actual character–well-written enough to be an individual and not just a prop–then him dying will be more about the death than the potential racism.
#18 by The Rev. D.D. on October 3, 2007 - 9:08 am
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Cool, another franchise torn down by Mighty Liz Kingsley.
Of course, first I had to reread the reviews of the first two; especially the second one, where she becomes near-orgasmic when Tyrell gets hooked (I recall a LOT of people cheering during that part…and the crowd was full of college students, i.e. his “peers”…we really need to let Hollywood know that WE DON’T LIKE UNINTERESTING, FOUL-MOUTHED ASSHOLES, and whacking them near the end of the movie isn’t enough to make us want to sit through their assholery…although NOT whacking them’s worse…I recall booing very loudly when she lived, and I was not alone) and her insightful ideas on how the movie was changed, and how it should’ve ended (Karla’s in on it, it’s all in her head, etc.)
Another fine review from Down Under; you have a knack for taking them apart and explaining not only why they don’t work, but what should’ve been done to make them work. Should I ever write a screenplay, I think I’d want to hire you to give it a once-over…
I shouldn’t be surprised they went that route re: the killer; as Mr. Begg says, it gives them carte blanche to run this thing into the ground forever. But I admit I was a bit taken by that idea. Too bad it’s wasted on what sounds like another ho-hum horror film. (Fits in with the first one that way.)
#19 by Matthew Fudge on October 3, 2007 - 9:44 am
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I think in the end that ‘Always’ had just about zero impact and if this is going the be a series then it’s going to get ever-increasingly low budget. Also what would the gimmick be; that every movie featured someone being accidentally killed and then hook boy chases down the killers like a supernatural health and safety inspector? Sadly I can see that happening, perhaps finally concluding (in space) with a faulty car seat-belt manufacturer being chased around.
#20 by Blake Matthews on October 3, 2007 - 10:00 am
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Good points, Zack and Ken. I remember in the Stomp Tokyo review of Bride of Chucky, they praised the script’s choice to not make the gay character a flamboyantly gay stereotype and to not make his death a result of his being gay.
Liz, how would you judge the end of this film if it had ended with her discovering that her tire had been torn/ripped/slashed (presumably by a hook), and then played some ominous music and maybe showed a look of fear/teror on her face?
#21 by Ken Begg on October 3, 2007 - 10:55 am
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Zach — Well, that’s a whole other issue. Writing characters with depth! You’re a wag, sir!
#22 by Zack Handlen on October 3, 2007 - 12:00 pm
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I also sometimes dream of movies where the monster doesn’t rely on the stupidity of his victims to get the job done.
I’m sick, I know.
#23 by Ken Begg on October 4, 2007 - 8:12 am
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“I want to live in a world where people don’t bury each other up to the neck in ant hills, or throw acid on one another!”
“You’re talkin’ about some sort of DREAM WORLD!”
#24 by lyzard on October 4, 2007 - 2:15 pm
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If they wanted a kicker ending on Always, it should at least have been that it wasn’t over *because* Amber continued to lie to the police. Otherwise, I stand by my assertion that as the only innocent party, Sheriff Davis should have been the one to take out Undead Ben.
Yup, a slasher film where the hero is a middle-aged man. I, too, can dream….
#25 by Ken Begg on October 4, 2007 - 3:45 pm
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Liz, do you still get that sense of wonder, like I do, when I plug some old movie into the DVD player and realize the cast is mainly made up of people in their ’40s or even ’50s? Wow, what a trip.
#26 by lyzard on October 4, 2007 - 8:10 pm
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Yes – but it isn’t just that: it’s the fact that in those old films, everyone over the age of twenty is a functional adult. Whereas these days we get nothing but forty year old adolescents. (She said, looking in the mirror.)